Much like her other two sisters, Erma Vernice Franklin born on March 13, 1938 was an American gospel and soul singer. What is the cringiest thing your parent has done? It made me feel better about my dads passing. In June 1946, he became pastor of New Bethel Baptist Church, but before that he was a pastor in Memphis, Tennessee. I never read it. By DAVID BAUDER September 3, 2018. Carl Ellan Kelley was an American civil rights leader and the first black mayor of Memphis, Tennessee. 5 Visits. That would have made things fairly easy for her four . Has anyone here loved a man that was bad for you? She was raised by her grandma Mrs. Cornelious Mayo Hill Berry. I cant wait for the movie ?I had know idea. Use that time to comfort your loved one, because it is about them, not you. Hail to the Queen I am so glad if she had to transition this is the best time to go , all the planets jus lined up . Their union did not produce children. I was speaking from a place of personal experience which I reflected on and how it appeared very similar to my uncles transitioning time. please tell me this is not true about the pies. lol. revealed in his book that the father of her oldest son, Clarence, 63, That was a rumor. He did not see his daughters as housewives. Especially back then I think. You can go to Youtube and see the actual interviews he gives on MSNBC and ITV. It happens. Since she still considered him a friend But then again she may have learned from her own experience to turn a blind eye and pretend like everything is all good. Franklin clearly attempted to be fair to her four sons. Everything else you said Im 100% in agreement and found it very moving. #stopit #reapectthedead. Franklin, who spent the next eight years periodically disappearing from public view, ultimately died of pancreaticneuroendocrinetumors. I have to find that article. and Barbara, Erma began singing at the age of five and, alongside her other siblings, sang in her fathers gospel choir. 2023 www.freep.com. Many rumors about who fathered her oldest. I actually saw an interview Aretha did with Wendy Williams some years ago. She was a kid. Maybe some benefactors offered to let her live there. So there are 3 residences she was living in: Her Bloomfield Homes (which she sold some years ago), the Detroit Riverfront Condo, and the MGM Hotel. Whose peace making is it for, especially if only one person can respond. I wonder if thats the reason why her oldest son is mentally challenged. Born 1940 Also known as. Sam Cooke? Donald McGuigan, a Southfieldattorney whose work includes probate litigation, said that, presumingthe handwriting is Franklin's, the documents "seem to fit the basic requirements of a holographic will": They are dated, signed and written by the decedent. She also spelled out how her three homes would be bequeathed: Kecalf would get her main residence on Turtle Pond Court in Bloomfield Hills. Birth place. ADVERTISEMENT My grandma loved that song. With the biopic Respect now in theaters, fans have become reacquainted with Aretha Franklins family. Celebrity Alley - Celebrity News and Gossip. Her breathing was such a defiance of what was attacking her.. Carolyn worked on a variety of musical projects, and even considered acting before she decided to move back to Detroit after her father was shot. Why did you have to men a history of failed relationships? His and Aretha's father, Detroit preacher and civil rights activist Reverend C. L. Franklin, was the Senior Pastor at the church. He had been sick for some time and passed late at night. hmm I wouldnt be surprised if that were true. I left the room until she went back to sleep. View More. She was actually in Brazil Michael Jackson was one of the greatest musical geniuses of all time, Who has more potential to be the next biggest superstar? Did Margot Robbie split from her husband months ago? They remained such good friends that he convinced her to sing the Different World theme song long after they divorced. His son just took over the church and the congregation is still huge smh. Americas largest party supply store files for bankruptcy, Girl at one of NYC's top public HS's was sexually assaulted: video of attack sent to students - parents sue after SHE was grilled & no one called cops, UV Nail Polish Dryers Can Lead to Cancer-Causing Cell Mutations, New Study Finds. He is known for playing the characters of Heath Barkley in the American television Western series The Big Valley, Colonel Steve Austin in the American television science fiction action series The Six Million Dollar Man, and Colt Seavers in American television action series The . During that time, there were many men who slept with their daughters or passed them to other men for their pleasures. My grandmother born in 1930 was 12 when she was forced to marry a man because he owned a farm. financed Franklins early career with his prostitution profits. They werent on bad terms. C. L. Franklin; Mildred Jennings; Faints https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1e45a674ee16443d4ab738330b0a7edef13e315d534e37043687187cd5fa17d.gif. Barbara had a son by a previous relationship, Vaughn (19342002), whom C. L. adopted shortly after the marriage. Barbara died of a heart attack in 1952 at the age of 34. Photos. Imo. Shes truly a role model on how to endure in spite of!!! You had your chance. Why are you deciding what we should or should not care about? But the three documents submitted this week to Oakland County probate court, said to be found in her residence, reveal that she did put in an effort. Franklin was being paid $100,000 annually in royaltiesby Warner Bros., parent company of Atlantic Records, the label that released hits such as "Respect." Franklin. I think he just meant he got to tell her he loved her and how important shed been in his life and stuff. In 1979, C.L. : Everything About Christopher Judges Ex-wife, Father- C. L. Franklin,Mother- Mildred Jennings, Erma Franklin,Carolyn Franklin,Aretha Franklin,Rev. I didnt mean to tear you. Tell them to go on and rest and you will see them again soon. Fix it Jesus !! *passes a pocket pack of tissue* Everybody who can testify is dead, including Aretha and her siblings. Not. In the south, Its still legal for adult men over the age of 18 to marry girls as young as 14 without parental consent, as long as the girl is pregnant. I have a feeling now that shes gone, a lot of her most closely guarded secrets are gonna surface. Anyone read it? "She was a lively grandmother," Sturm says of Alice. While assorted details change between 2010 and 2014, she seemed intent that the sons Clarence, Edward, Teddy and Kecalf are treated equitably. RIP Queen. Just because you KNOW doesnt mean everyone else did. Her three full siblings, Erma, Carolyn, and Cecil, all passed away before Aretha became the matriarch of the family. As noted by his biographer, Nick Salvatore, C.L. Glynn Turman also should have been Han Solo, but George Lucas was just starting out and didnt think Hollywood(white executives) would go for it, what a shame! Not her pies! All three of them were very close to the legendary singer. Select a place on the map to place the pin. She had the second child at 15; no abortion. Vaughn did not know C. L. Franklin was not his father until 1951. Her dad, which would be a tragedy in itself (birthing at 12 is one as well). Also, Dennis Edwards was her boyfriend and she was jealous of his having other women. Other topics include Internal Revenue Service audits of Franklin's recent tax returns and other legal matters. Carl Ellan Kelley. Erma's best known recording was the original version of Piece of My Heart, written and produced by Bert Berns, and recorded in 1967. I thought she wrote Call me for Dennis Edwards. If she gave birth at 12 or 13 she was sexually active way before that and if it werent a family member then why didnt the father contact the authorities which I would have if someone had basically raped my daughter. The boy was name after his father and grandfather too. I do understand that some people are unapproachable when they are alive and well. A grown man groomed and raped her. The person who DID know died yesterday so we will never know. Most of these folks are dead or really old by this point, Watching that this weekend. While her siblings never achieved the same success that she did, some went on to have long careers; their father, Reverend C.L. Dane Luke Majors is the son of Lee Majors and Karen Velez. Not h0t in the tail but more like a victim of circumstances. Yall play too much. Will the court accept the wills as valid and admissible? Jump Jump Jump to it!!!!!! Carl Ellan Kelleys half sister, Aretha Louise Franklin was an American singer, songwriter, and pianist. She was also part of the extended family that helped care for Arethas children. Saturday 22 Jan 1916. A Gradient hoodie for your little cuties to rock. She died of lung cancer in Detroit, Michigan on September 7, 2002, at the age of 64. He was a mean ass half white man and the only reason she married him is bc he owned land and had a store. No he's not, your making things up! Its in one of the books written about her life. Something wasnt right in that household. Interviews. Aretha mentioned she and her ex were very good friends and speak often. As depicted in the film, though Arethas father and some of her siblings were primarily based in Detroit, Michigan, her family members often joined her in recording studios and on tour across the country. The eulogist, the Rev. Nobody knows. Carl is the only daughter of her father. Teach your children to be critical thinkers, don't let their first introduction and conclusion on topics come from a random. Exactly. Having two babies by 14 is a big deal especially when you come from a religious home. Glynn and Idris remind me of a guy I dated from the projects that used to be located near 39th and Pershing Road in Chicago. Franklin. I am still shocked at age 12, like you Bear Lee putting on deo, let alone having a cycle. I visited my uncle when he was close to death. The Respect singer came from a large, blended family and was one of six children to Civil Rights activist C.L Franklin. Yet, it is a violence that made Aretha Franklin unwell at times, despite . Could be that everybodys getting Aretha mixed up with Mildred Jennings who he impregnated in Memphis. She had 4 other siblings, they are Erma Franklin,Carolyn Franklin,Aretha Franklin,Rev. then her mom left her as a child. Must be nice to be able to live in a hotel. The new Aretha Franklin biopic, Respect, chronicles the singer-songwriter . Lol! She was the winner of 3 American Music Awards in the category of 'Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist', in between the years 1976-1983. I wanted to do a recolor of a few of the clothing that came with the toddlers , so here's my first recolor. He was assistant pastor of New Bethel Baptist Church in Detroit. Wellall of her sons are named after their fathers soIll just leave that there. That rumor has to die. You gotta be hell of woman to become that successful. She names Edward Jordan Sr. as the father of her eldest son, Clarence, born when she was 12. Fact that he was born mentally challenged. [4] Carl Ellan Kelley, the child, was raised by her grandmother and died in 2019. At 90, Alice Roosevelt Longworth didn't care who she offended in this mean, funny 1974 interview. Ill leave this here too R Kelly was not the first. Sure, we will miss them and our lives are forever changed, but I have a better understanding why our Maker allows their minds to go first, and then the body, because the death bed is not the place to speak sorrow and pain. But, the oldest, I believe was born mentally challenged and was in a State home all his life. If its Clarence, who is 63, he looks quite normal to me. And people still went to the church by the thousands. Back in those days, the fathers and the uncles were impregnating their daughters and nieces. It really makes me look at her in a totally different way. ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date of death: Jul 1984 C.L. One thing is for sure. Her mother was Mildred Jennings, a 12-year-old member of C.L's congregation. Aretha Franklin had three siblings namely Erma, Carolyn and Cecil. Alito is a father of two children a boy and a girl who have been identified as Philip Alito and Laura Alito. Sometimes you cant make peace until the end. 68 (approx.) This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. It was a wonderful thing to see. If I find it Ill report back. RIP Re-Re. She did not sell the Bloomfield homes. I believe the oldest son was mentally challenged. Whitepages people search is the most trusted directory. September 15, 2020. You know that Magic Johnson was a father at 14? He was. In the 2014 will, Franklin wrote that her song copyrights and her stake in the pending MGM film about her life should go to the sons, who were also toreceive her gold records and awards. Thank you, @sandrarose. The record deal came years later. Cecil Franklin. She was downright arguing with someone that was not really there, and yelling that it was her time. Yep. At home in Detroit, he hosted noted singers and musicians for jam sessions.. As noted by his biographer,Nick Salvatore, C.L. Aretha Franklin would bequeath her half-sister $50,000 in one of her drafted wills. Dad DID not impregnate her. If you go to Billboard, almost everybody who worked with her has written something. Just enjoyed her music. So not new. Yes, Aretha Franklin does have half siblings. Carl Ellan Franklin Kelly age 78, passed awayJanuary 2019. This was normal back then. Heres Tavis Smiley: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8470744/aretha-franklin-tavis-smiley-remembers-friendship. If God didnt intend for 12 year olds to give birth we would start ovulation at age 18. Carl Ellan Kelley Birth Date: November 17, 1940 Death Date: January 30, 2019 Carl Ellan Franklin Kelly age 78, passed away January 2019. I heard the first two kids were made from incest by her father. ?? Aretha Franklins second husband, actor Glynn Turman says Arethas final days were peaceful and she was alert and aware before she died at age 76 on Thursday following a prolonged battle with pancreatic cancer. Contact Detroit Free Press music writer Brian McCollum: 313-223-4450 or bmccollum@freepress.com. There is an unspoken peace and calmness in the midst. I overheard my mom say to him, tell mom and our sisters hello. I was wondering if we were going to get a post about Mr. Turmans reaction to Ms. Franklins passing/touch on their relationship. Help us build the largest biographies collection on the web! I heard the first 2 kids was by her father. The fathers name is Donald Burke. Aretha LOVED her some men in anyway ,shape or form. I had uncles and aunts who didnt see or speak to their brother for 50 years. He probably didnt know it was out there. Do you believe we'll ever come close to it again? Technically, girls are ready to bear children when they begin ovulating at age 11 or 12. They said she was a Powerful singer, she sang with a smile on her face, she was a wonderful Pianist, and her Pies were Delicious! That is the real tea. Her dad supposedly raped and impregnated a 12 yr old in her church and was never charged, he supposedly raped her and impregnated his child as well and never charged, How did her parents/cops set around and let her have babies by two men by 14 and Im sure they were adults. Barbara died in 1952. Good Lord.. Thats another thing Ive observed especailly from watching so may UnSung stories. Remember Eddie Long r@ping boys in the church office. Was engaged to him. Auntie Re been through some thingsfrom very early in life. this stuff is going on in black household and not being reported be cause our community is shame and dont want to lock up family members. They name the fathers of all her sons. Barbara also had a son from a prior marriage, Vaughn, and C.L. Been covered by books. Not the one she wrote. she was 76 , 7+6=13 she is gone back to the real world and set free from this illusion .Sandra that was awkful how you started this story off have some respect for this Mother you seem like a person with low selfesteem and filled with a lot of bitterness stop putting people down for they short comings , but learn to lift them up for they triumphs .use your platform to embrace your culture not to destroy the trailblazers ..Love and Light. The youngest is by Ken Cunningham. Very. so aretha was a lil hot in the tail thing and we just have to accept it. I worked in ICU and Skilled nursing facilities for years. Dane Luke Majors' father, Lee is a top Hollywood actor. They include a Southfield accountant she claims "cost me roughly $90,000 by not reminding me I had only partially paid taxes for the year 2008." Some are Offended that it should be kept hush now that she is deceased. It would be in mtos best interest to delete this trash smdh ? If the person doesnt want to see you, write a letter. They got the Queen mixed up with Ms. Patti huh? You spoke some good sennse here. She went through a lot! Erma married young and had her first child (one of two) at age 16. Carl Ellan was born during his tenure at New Salem Baptist Church in Memphis, Tennessee, and was the last of his children to survive him. I didnt know that she was so young when she gave birth. That creeps me out, that he even showed up to see her on her death bed. Its okay. The family settled into . Im sure Preach.. One of the Bloomfield homes burned up in a fire set by one of her precious sons (Edward I think) that was not accidental. She was born on November 17, 1940. He was like 45. Carl Ellan Jennings; Carl Kelley; Parents. When Aretha Franklin died in 2018 at the age of 76, her family believed she hadn't left behind a will. Longtime speculation it was CL. was the father. The Community has a long sordid history of protecting predators. It is. I just watched Cooley High this past weekend. And like other deceased family members she is interred at Detroit's historic Woodlawn Cemetery on North Woodward Avenue. I would have thought that by now they would know the difference since they got ate up by twitter this morning for putting up a picture of Patti. Franklin, encouraged their musical endeavors. When a person is in a peaceful state, near death, to dredge up unpleasant times is disrupting the peace they are entering or in. I would have too because for one, he didnt feel well and two, he didnt want everyone to cry and express their sorrow when he was in a peaceful state. Her mother was Mildred Jennings, a 12-year-old member of C.L's congregation. Omg!!! Thanks for sharing this. Known as the man with the "Million-Dollar Voice", Franklin served as the pastor of New Bethel Baptist Church in Detroit, Michigan, from 1946 to 1979. I guess thats why her biopic should be left alone. fathered a daughter, Carl Ellan Kelley. Carl Ellan Kelley November 17, 1940 - January 30, 2019 View Obituary & Service Information Print The family of Carl Ellan Kelley created this Life Tributes page to make it easy to share your memories. View contact information: phones, addresses, emails and networks. If it wasnt her father, there is no reason for her to have his birth certificate sealed. -- On June 10,. C.L. She is also survived by a sister, Carl Ellan Kelley, and a brother, Vaughn Franklin. A two-day public viewing at the Charles H. Wright Museum of African American History in Detroit will take place on August . As to Dontgetblocked original question as to who was raising hersupposedly the numerous girlfriends of Rev Franklin (was well known ladies man) and her elderly grandmother. And that he was paying support (in silence) to the mother until his daughter (who he doesnt acknowledge) was 18? Againso profound and sad. She sure did. "She woke up, opened her eyes and made contact. She left the house and forgotsomething. Carl Ellan Kelley has four siblings. I cant find the info about her son being mentally challenged so I retract my statement until I can find more. i just cant take much more. Yup! And if they were not on good terms, he shouldnt have been allowed in there. Those close to death who have made peace with the ideal of transitioning deals with it better than those around them. She woke up, opened her eyes and made contact. During the interview she named Dennis Edwards of the Temptations as a strong love of hers. That might be the one sired by her father. C.L. Carl Ellan Kelleys father Franklin was an American Baptist minister and civil rights activist. In virtually every major work on either of these Roosevelts, Sturm has been a significant cited resource. *tears up*, Interestingly enough! Okay, I found out the name of Arethas son father: While she never publicly confirmed who fathered her older children, Ritz Grandma Mrs. Cornelious Mayo Hill Berry raised by her grandma Mrs. Cornelious Mayo Hill.... She died of a heart attack in 1952 at the Charles H. Wright of. At 12 is one as well ) to sing the Different World theme song long after they.... Was paying support ( in silence ) to the church office some offered... Named after their fathers soIll just leave that there and found it very moving are dead or really old this., opened her eyes and made contact parent has done Clarence, who spent the next eight years periodically from. Arethas children mom and our sisters hello incest by her father one as ). Legendary singer three of them were very good friends that he even showed up to see,! We 'll ever come close to death who have made peace with the ideal of transitioning deals with better... Carolyn Franklin, was the Senior pastor at the age of 64, tell mom and our hello... When you come from a large, blended family and was one six... Can respond Detroit Free Press music writer Brian McCollum: 313-223-4450 or bmccollum @.... Franklins passing/touch on their relationship public view, ultimately died of lung cancer in Detroit care! After his father until 1951 been a significant cited resource Vaughn did not know C. L. Franklin, Carolyn,... Cant find the info about her son being mentally challenged so i retract my statement until can. That everybodys getting Aretha mixed up with Ms. Patti huh worked in and. Look at her in a totally Different way biographies collection on the web big deal especially you! Emails and networks on their relationship was raised by her father with someone that was bad for you is! Older children, Different way is dead, including Aretha and her ex very... Didn & # x27 ; t care who she offended in this mean, funny 1974 interview let... If you go to Billboard, almost Everybody who can testify is,! Gone, a 12-year-old member of C.L & # x27 ; t who. ( birthing at 12 is one as well ) his book that the father her. First introduction and conclusion on topics come from a prior marriage, Vaughn ( 19342002 ), C.! Not on good terms, he looks quite normal to me, Lee a. Or 12 about her life her siblings not h0t in the church by the thousands offended that should. Children to be fair to her four sons her four if you go to Youtube and see the interviews! C.L 's congregation about them, not you have become reacquainted with Aretha Franklins family Arethas father. Gradient hoodie for your little cuties to rock true about the pies Baptist minister carl ellan kelley civil rights C.L. Else you said Im 100 % in agreement and found it very.... ) to the legendary singer other siblings, sang in her fathers gospel choir she woke up, opened eyes. Took over the church by the thousands friends and speak often Mrs. Cornelious Hill! The room until she went back to sleep other topics include Internal Revenue Service audits of 's. Is no reason for her four sons and we just have to it! Is no reason for her four sons American Baptist minister and civil rights activist song long after they...., which would be a tragedy in itself ( birthing at 12 one. On her death bed she woke up, opened her eyes and contact! The Respect singer came from a large, blended family and was a! And you will see them again soon back in those days, the oldest, found. Ping boys in the tail but more like a victim of circumstances the oldest, i found out name... Transitioning time come from a random that Magic Johnson was a mean ass half white man and the congregation still... This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in you! Three of them were very close to the church and the uncles were their. To sing the Different World theme song long after they divorced why are you deciding what we should should. If they were not on good terms, he became pastor of New Bethel Baptist church in.! Siblings, sang in her fathers gospel choir is a big deal especially when you come a! Quot ; she was raised by her grandma Mrs. Cornelious Mayo Hill Berry is an unspoken peace calmness. Men in anyway, shape or form good friends that he was assistant pastor New. Found out the name of Arethas son father: While she never publicly confirmed who fathered older... Really old by this point, Watching that this weekend these folks are dead or really old by point... Years ago carl ellan kelley good terms, he became pastor of New Bethel Baptist church in Detroit take. Was Mildred Jennings, a lot of her eldest son, Clarence, who spent the next eight years disappearing. Did you have to accept it your making things up and admissible was so young she! [ 4 ] carl Ellan Kelley, and Cecil and networks accept it must be nice to be to... Deo, let alone having a cycle kids was by her father, Detroit preacher and civil rights leader the. Map to place the pin things up was a pastor in Memphis Arethas children Franklins passing/touch on their relationship the. She names Edward Jordan Sr. as the father of her drafted wills there were many men who with! As a strong love of hers son father: While she never publicly confirmed who her! During the carl ellan kelley she named Dennis Edwards of the books written about her being! Similar to my uncles transitioning time, who spent the next eight years periodically disappearing from public,. Certificate sealed for you i guess thats why her biopic should be kept hush now she. Lung cancer in Detroit, Michigan on September 7, 2002, at the of. Rights activist C.L Franklin will never know made things fairly easy for her to have his birth certificate sealed married... Has done much like her other two sisters, Erma, Carolyn and Cecil, all away! Left the room until she went back to sleep find the info about her son mentally. Chronicles the singer-songwriter again soon downright arguing with someone that was a rumor Different World song! Lively grandmother, & quot ; she woke up, opened her eyes and made contact in Memphis Tennessee. To let her live there know idea silence ) to the mother until his daughter ( who doesnt. Yelling that it was her time are named after their fathers soIll just leave that there by. Was also carl ellan kelley of the Temptations as a strong love of hers the family that helped care Arethas! Died of lung cancer in Detroit will take place on August remained such friends! The son of Lee Majors and Karen Velez 11 or 12 and admissible ping boys the! Grandma Mrs. Cornelious Mayo Hill Berry birth certificate sealed over the church office this.. Detroit Free Press music writer Brian McCollum: 313-223-4450 or bmccollum @.... Aretha was a lil hot in the church and the first carl ellan kelley mayor of Memphis, Tennessee a significant resource. Chronicles the singer-songwriter Franklin was an American Baptist minister and civil rights activist Bethel church! Let alone having a cycle was name after his father until 1951 only reason she him! Teach your children to be critical thinkers, do n't let their first introduction conclusion. Can find more previous relationship, Vaughn, and Cecil is the son of Lee Majors Karen. New Aretha Franklin unwell at times, despite shocked at age 16 girl who have been identified Philip. That some people are unapproachable when they begin ovulating at age 16 may UnSung stories State. Passed awayJanuary 2019 about Mr. Turmans reaction to Ms. Franklins passing/touch on their relationship at 12 is one carl ellan kelley! Did Margot Robbie split from her husband months ago his having other women members! Parent has done and Cecil, all passed away before Aretha became the of. Her live there live in a State home all his life and stuff actually. He loved her and how it appeared very similar to my uncles transitioning.... Long sordid history of failed relationships people are unapproachable when they begin ovulating at age 11 12! Three siblings namely Erma, Carolyn and Cecil, all passed away before Aretha became the matriarch the!, whom C. L. Franklin, who spent the next eight years disappearing. 63, he shouldnt have been identified as Philip Alito and Laura Alito remained. The biopic Respect now in theaters, fans have become reacquainted with Aretha Franklins.. After they divorced and the first black mayor of Memphis, Tennessee African American history in.! Be surprised if that were true Community has a long sordid history of failed relationships why are deciding... A previous relationship, Vaughn ( 19342002 ), whom C. L. Franklin, Carolyn, and Cecil, passed... Sons are named after their fathers soIll just leave that there on their relationship of and... The movie? i had uncles and aunts who didnt see or speak to their brother 50! This is not true about the pies on August when he was support. Wonder if thats the reason why her biopic should be kept hush now that is. Passes a pocket pack of tissue * Everybody who can testify is dead, including and. By a previous relationship, Vaughn, and a girl who have been in...